Is the deep state real?
Ariana Huffington, and the Huffington Post thinks it is. And, so does the left leaning yellow-liberal sanitary napkin, Salon.com And President Donald Trump’s Republican lawyers think the deep state and its hidden agents and agencies (much like the electoral college) is a real thing too.
And even Scientific American online asks the question and tries to answer it (in typical politicized ‘scientific’ terms):
But for some reason, the DSM-IV thinks such “beliefs” are an indicator of delusional thinking. And, psychologists who are gang staking denialists believe that OGS is likely a delusion-and tat people who talk about it should be “isolated off the internet,” or that “these people” are likely dangerous-that the the internet, which is one place where they have to reach out to others about this topic-should be monitored, and “these people” tracked down or “referred into police custody.”
Related Story: Lawmakers call for the release of JFK assasination papers ( after ALL THESE YEARS, when psychologists called such people “conspiracy theorists”).
The “Bible of Psychology,” the DSM-5, holds that a delusion is not a delusion if there is a substantial community that “believes” in it.
SO, this question about “invisible” begets another question: If one of the the flagships of “modern” psychology is in fact just more junk science cloaked in the disguise of “authoritative opinion” aka psychology-then their main claim about such delusions just went out the window didn’t it?
Because it’s just crazy to believe that “invisible agents” control the world, right? Or that total scumbags use race, class, gender, and then, manipulate institutional power for purely evil ends? Or that policing, and especially the unaccountable, unchecked, hidden elements of it that work “in darkness” as some authors have noted, IS the problem?
Let’s look at “what is hidden” in darkness on the internet today
So, today was a banner day here at the ROGS blog, as some 81 people (and counting) from the US, Hong Kong (8 specific HK readers) and Britain read through my blog. And, my blog was hacked, AND for awhile at least, those ‘reading through’ ROGS numbered only 13 visitors.
I mean- when I first checked my stats, BEFORE I was hacked, or otherwise subverted (these are actually social engineering exploits)-they said that the visitor count was 13-and then, AFTER the hack/redirection/ offline ‘situation room’ or whatever it was ( I write “live” meaning I do not pre-write offline and then post)-my stats jumped to 81.
Why am I telling you this you might wonder? Well- in the OGS dialectic, some psychologists have made the claim that those who say they are gang stalked are crazy, delusional, and likely suffer from something OTHER than official source gas-lighting, which as I have documented repeatedly herein, is a very profitable narrative with subsidiary industries where crisis PR firms get paid billions, psychology, of course, gets to control a narrative, and make bilions, and all of those CVE and related “surveillance state” hero’s get paid paid paid to chew through the ballast stones of healthy democracies.
But before I get too deep- here, meet “David” who thinks the number 35 has special meaning-and that he is charged with a duty to tell others about the connection between the number 35, I-35W, the Houston Astro-dome, and aliens that he met while on an airplane one time. Even as I write this phrase, I know I am writing it incorrectly- that his story is not MY story, and thus, I cannot properly interpret his personal meaning but ere is “David” (after Lucie was hunted down and locked up, I decided that using real names here at ROGS can put people in danger):
I could tell you about these aliens and so on, but probably you should ask him. For my purposes, I would rather describe a situation that he described to me-and BTW? About 94% of everything he has said to me makes perfect sense; he follows narrative well, knows the difference between a joke and a serious comment, and so on-in other words, he doesn’t strike me as “schizophrenic” at all. I have known those, and at best, he could qualify as a mild case, with possible impulse control issues, and some anger.
But the story he told me aside from the aliens and NASA and I-35W- his stories are quite factual, reality based, easy to check out, and his narrative and recall incredibly clear- his stories have “longitudinal” memory, and are steady and precise-not ritualized in ANY way, and easy for the listener to comprehend.
Here is a story that is NOT about aliens, or ‘seeing the light’ above Houston:
” You ever been to San Diego? I was down there one time, and a couple guys, you know some gang kids, you know-gang banger types-they point to me and say ‘Hey-you-you’re the guy that stole our bike last week.'”
“Well, I never stole no bike-Look at me! What do I need with a bike??!”
(Note: David is filthy to every single fold and crease of his clothes, fingernails, and every piece of skin, wears only one pair of clothes, equally filthy, torn, with holes and frayed fabric; he refuses my many offers to feed or clothe him; refuses my offer to buy him a blanket, and has no other belongings-NONE. He is laying in the street when I meet him, and he is laying in the street as I write this. Every time I step out, his eyes smile a vague smile, he gets up and makes conversation with me, very clearly, very concisely, very well spoken.)
” Well I walked away from them, and into a convenience store, grab a soda, and then these guys come up, you now, about this far away behind me.”
He motions to a car about twenty feet away.
“Then they start asking where I am from, and what I am doing here (in San Diego), and I don’t have to tell them anything. You know, they changed the whole way they were talking and stuff- the bike wasn’t even what they wanted to talk about.
“And then- like I was telling you before, you know, the cops come up and then they tell me ‘sit down buddy, relax’ and all that, and ‘why don’t you have seat here on the curb.'”
“They go over to the guy’s, you know, the gang kids, and you can see the way those guys were using their hands, you know, like this, and that…”
David is showing me rapid hand gestures that signify direction, motion, personal references from the standpoint of the gang bangers who are using the gestures.
“You know- basically they’re running a story, and you can tell it has nothing to do with a bike, or even what they were saying when they talked to me the first time. Well, the cops come back, and you know, ‘ Please stand up’ and all that-you know how it goes-then they are putting cuffs on me! I spent over half a week in jail over that, and I didn’t do anything. But I did get the hell out of there.”
So, David, despite his strange belief- his struggle between apophanie and epiphanie- David and people like him are useful tool’s with which some derive capital-namely, in this case, the police got paid, the jail got paid -jails get about $140.00 per night- and no doubt the community rat’s, aka “gang bangers doing pro-active self promotion and PR” got out of whatever dirt they were doing.
Then, there is the factor of “the horses” where guys like David-who could easily be though schizophrenic- are instead, numbers junkies, addicts, who are stuck in the gray area between superstitions that are encouraged by “magical thinking” which is nearly by design in the western cut/s narrative, an integral part of Catholic/Orthodox/Greek and Russian Orthodox thinking. That religion and mystical teaching’s about “god” are themselves harmful-because David, aliens, the number 35, NASA and all- he bet the horses till he was broke. David’s destruction then, wa gambling-which opens the door to a host of other possibilities for cure; and none of those possibilities include the fact that “organized gang stalking” will solve the problem.
Corporatism, and globalism, and then, the collusion with the sales and marketing end of it, aka the PR industry and it’s progenitor, psychology-these same types have done this since the late 20th century forwards, and from 1913 in the US, and especially ramped it up around 1950, when the “good guys” got their hands on Hitler’s and Mengele’s Twins Studies, Sydney Gottlieb’s special poisons, and Donald E. Cameron’s notorious hand crafted minds. None of them solve these problems ever- but they make sh!tloads of money at it.
And other fun toys, of course, like MKULTRA, PAPERCLIP, MONARCH, and BLUEBIRD- but especially when they sunk their hungry teeth into the soft buttmeat of MHCHAOS, where the CIA worked with domestic law enforcement to destroy dissent, and dissenters (the reader is welcome to jump down the rabbit hole and study those topics themselves, but here is a primer and here is one way that this played out as recently as 2003-4).
So- what better place to hide potentially nefarious conduct than in an online dialectic of strange and sometimes illegal, questionable, or plainly evil behavior by government agents? I have an idea!
Hide it n the internet, masked in total gibberish, and then, when “one of those” gets out of the box, or goes off the farm and tries to associate online- how about we call THEM “a bunch of dangerous crazy people,” and then isolate them, so they cannot tel the world abut this new thing of theirs=which is really a very old thing indeed.
But anyone reading this bog has by now come to understand that the online community of those who have been gang stalked have within it several different levels of participation- and that the “schizophrenics and delusionals” are fairly easy to separate from within the dialogues. And so is apophenia; and harmful misinformation, disinformation, and coercion.
But “David”- well, I looked up a few relatives of his, and tried to connect him with resources-just as the block captain- a woman who used to be “in the fashion industry” and her two well tended Pekinese were upon us. She thanked me for spending time with David, and suggested I call in the “whoever they are” that “helps” “these people” in the community policing scheme.
For my part, I chose NOT to do that, or to call the cops, or some resource allocator, and bought David a bagel and cream cheese instead-because that’s what he asked for when he finally asked for something (after refusing my offers over a period of hours) And, I ordered a toasted bagel for him, because that’s what he asked for, and because Lucie likes toasted bagels, and so does David.
And, as far as I can tell, no aliens rubbed off on me. But what do I know? I am just one person’s opinion about “these people.” And David, for his part, made it clear to me that he had no idea how the internet works-“I really, no really, I am computer illiterate, or whatever they cal it, which is why I can’t get it all together, you know, and get back with my family. ”
In fact- David NEVER uses the internet.
So, so much for that “the dangerous delusionals need to be kept offline” theory. Sorry Liz, and Lorraine, and David*; and Mengele, and Goebbels, and Cameron, and Nurse Ratched- but maybe “good people” LIKE you-need to stay off the internet, and leave the crazies alone.
*David. V. James, who co-authored the Sheridan-James study. He also authors study after study about how dangerous TI’s are to people who pander junk science to police agencies, that willingly use it in the modern frauds that “commitment hearings,” and other gray area p