Gang stalking, Mormons, and the FBI

Many online narratives about gang stalking reference Mormon’s, and many blog comments also. While at face value most gang stalking blogs are likely cover operations and recruitment centers for FBI or other agency informants, they are also sometimes actual narratives of people who are being targeted in these pseudo-investigations.

The FBI and the CIA have a long history recruiting Mormon’s for various reasons, and here below is a link to some commentary on Reddit, one of the bck channels where these dialogues take place, and some evidence that this is the case:

CIA, FBI, NSA recruitment of Mormons (self.exmormon)

submitted 1 year ago by brainwashednomore

I’ve been to a career fair at BYU and I saw a gentleman there from my ward on the East Coast when I was a child that I knew worked in the Intelligence Community (IC). He was in the military recruiting room of the fair, but he was in a suit and wasn’t recruiting for the armed services. I also had a neighbor growing up that almost got blown up on a secret assignment in Libya I believe. He skipped dessert at the main floor restaurant in his hotel, and went on a walk outside and passed a guy heading into the hotel with a backpack, and 30 seconds later the restaurant went boom. It was all over the news, and his wife knew where he was on assignment, and this was before cell phones so she was freaking out and kind of spilled the beans. We lived in proximity to Ft Meade in MD (NSA HQ).

I think it’s also Mormon legend in general that the IC prefers to hire Mormons because they are clean cut, and live clean lives and that makes it easier for them to pass a background investigation for high level security clearances. Has anyone else heard this?

Discuss:

 

[–]AllByMyZelphI dig burial mounds 55 points 1 year ago

Mormons know how to keep a sacred.

[–][deleted] 21 points 1 year ago

More specifically, they’re used to being a part of a hierarchy with a shady history and not looking into that stuff too much, seeing deeper analysis of something which presents itself with a smiling face as heretical, and fleeing with arms flailing from any hint of progressive values where civil rights are concerned. And yeah, they tend to give a very clean-cut impression and don’t tend to get into the sort of trouble which embarrasses the agency from a PR perspective.

EDIT: Oh, and whether it’s true or not this is more than just something Mormons believe. I’ve heard jokes (including one in Inherent Vice) about government agents being disproportionately Mormon.

[–][deleted] 8 points 1 year ago

Also, they know how to obey regardless of what is right.

[–]The_Last_YYou want religion, do you?[🍰] 4 points 1 year ago

Also a lot of them have experience living in shitty conditions for extended periods of time, following rigid schedules and speak a second language. Thanks mission.

[–]Stuboysrevenge(wish that damn dog had caught him!) 4 points 1 year ago

You got to it before I could. Unquestioned obedience to authority. Being able to deal with moral relativity (IE. Nephi committing murder) and justifying things for a”higher ” cause. Just to name a few…

[–]FearlessFixxerEvil Apostate/Regular Dude…depends on who you ask 22 points 1 year ago

My father is retired from the CIA.

About 12 years ago, I was part of a conversation between him and a guy who was really high up (and mormon too)….

he said that the CIA was starting to really cut back on Mormon recruitment. He said they still hire mormons but they were not pursuing them as agressivly as in the past.

He said the reason was because they were running into serious problems where the mormons would not do certain things they needed to while undercover, like drink alcohol.

This is all abviously anectdotal so take it for what it is worth

[–]repmack 1 point 1 year ago

I’d imagine most CA agents wouldn’t need to drink on the job.

[–]FearlessFixxerEvil Apostate/Regular Dude…depends on who you ask 1 point 1 year ago

I can’t say how common it is…that is what this guy said.

I would imagine there might be scenerios where they might need to blend in.

If you would like to read a great book on undercover work, check out Under and Alone. It is the story of the first undercover law enforcement agent to ever become a fully patched member of a motorcycle gang. Let’s just say, a mormon could not have made it happen….

[–]The_Last_YYou want religion, do you?[🍰] 1 point 1 year ago

A lot of missions can fall under lying for the Lord, but some lines Mormons aren’t going to cross without a voice telling them to cut off that head.

[–]repmack 1 point 1 year ago

My point is not that those jobs aren’t done, but most cia jobs aren’t undercover field work. More likely is they wanted to go drinking with co workers and know that Mormons are no fun.

[–]FearlessFixxerEvil Apostate/Regular Dude…depends on who you ask 1 point 1 year ago

I realize that most jobs are not undercover but that was the context of the conversation i was a part of.

[–][deleted] 21 points 1 year ago

Yes. I have 3 family members in IC. Also, I think they are also easy to mold into IC culture because they have been molded their entire life in Mormonism. It’s an easy transition to fall in line and follow their leaders.

 

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